The Rich & Kel Conversation

Rich and Kel.

Practical wisdom.Honest conversations.Better questions.

Our promise: you'll leave clearer about what's important, more confident in your choices and more intentional about the life you're creating.

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Conversation 1 — How Do I Stay on Track With What I Really Want?

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Conversation 2 — What Am I Actually Creating With My Life?

Conversation 3 — How Well Do I Really Know Myself?

Conversation 4 — Now I See It — What Am I Going to Do With It?

Conversation 5 — Am I Living My Life — or Watching Everyone Else's?

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20+ Years Experience
Thousands Of People Supported
Business Owners
Parents
Leaders
Professionals
20+ Years Experience
Thousands Of People Supported
Business Owners
Parents
Leaders
Professionals

01 — What You Can Expect

Every conversation is designed for YOU, to leave you clearer about what's important, more confident in your choices and more intentional about the life you're creating.

Because these aren't conversations built from theory alone.

They're shaped by 30 years of developing people, including almost two decades of running our own business skills training & development business, 28 years of marriage, raising a family and plenty of real life along the way.

Real stories. Real experience. Real success. Things we've learned, lived, got right, got wrong - and are still working on ourselves.

Kelly teaching a Motion training room full of leaders

02 — Where it started

Twenty years in the training room.

For more than 20 years, we've worked with people in business — helping them lead, communicate, make decisions, build confidence, take responsibility and grow.

And again and again, at the end of every session, people would ask us the same question.

“How do I keep learning this outside the training room?”

Richard and Kelly sharing a meal together

03 — What we realised

So much of what we teach in business is just as powerful outside of business.

It's about people.
It's about relationships.
It's about choices.
It's about confidence.
It's about responsibility.
It's about knowing yourself.
It's about thinking.
And it's about how you want to live.

05 — Where it lands

Rich & Kel takes the practical wisdom we've spent 20 years teaching in business and brings it into everyday life.

Through honest conversations, real examples, lived experience and questions that help you think a little deeper, our hope is that you don't just enjoy the conversation.

You take something from it.You use it.And something in your life moves forward because of it.
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We guarantee a positive impact.

No fluff. No hype. Just real conversations that move you forward.

Clearer about what's important.
More confident in your choices.
More intentional about the life you're creating.

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What People Say

Real words from real people.

"I'm so excited for the clarity that Richard and Kelly have brought to me and our business. Since working with them we have achieved an unbelievable amount and we would not have got to this point without them."

Jayde Pezet

Managing Director, Pezet Matheson

Australia

"I've worked with the Team at Motion Training, both as an individual, and also with my law firm partners. As an executive team, we've done training for over 2 years now. The benefits and insight we have gained cannot be understated."

Ryan Harris

Harris Personal Injury Lawyers

USA

"Richard and Kelly were transformative for our business. As managers we get so focused on the days and weeks ahead it's difficult to zoom out and see the larger picture and ask the hard questions."

Jared Salter

Business Leader

USA

"Motion Training has been an invaluable partner for Waterware over the past decade, offering exceptional business coaching that has significantly shaped our company's growth."

Jeremy Croxford

Waterware Leadership Team

"Richard's insight into personalities and how people think and behave has provided me with knowledge and awareness to move forward with my key leadership team confidently. The support was amazing."

Ranger Wiens

Harris Personal Injury Lawyers

USA

"Start to finish, the best training I've had. Both Kelly & Richard are very knowledgeable and easy to learn from. Our managers are now running their teams with real confidence."

Plumbing World Team

Management Team

"Kelly and Richard aren't just trainers, they're a powerful combo of psychologists, behaviourists, communication specialists, motivators, but most importantly, decent human beings."

Brendon Sutton

Sales Manager, Viking Group

New Zealand

"I cannot speak highly enough of the training provided by Richard & Kelly. They demonstrate a deep understanding, tailoring their approach to suit the specific needs of our people."

Paula Price

Customer Journey Manager, Versatile

New Zealand

"Richard has been business coaching me for approximately a year now and has continued to provide me with knowledgeable, thorough, and helpful training sessions. I have been able to confidently take my learnings and apply them to my business environment, giving me the opportunity to upskill in my management role and learn new things. The coaching is always very targeted and appropriate, which helps to assist me in my day-to-day activities."

Danielle Ware

Office Manager, Waterware

New Zealand

"Thank you for empowering me to be bold in critical feedback. You made such an impact on my leadership. Forever grateful."

Mandy Hiem

Dean & Head of Department, Elim College

"Richard and Kelly both exude a depth of understanding and experience - not only sharpening my professional day to day, but also my personal interactions."

Luis Hughes

Technical Team Leader, Waterware

"The course was exceptionally useful to us. The role-plays brought the examples to life, and everyone took great learnings away."

Westpac Banking New Zealand

Leadership Team

"On a personal level, working with Richard has been greatly beneficial. His understanding of personal development and compassionate guidance have helped me navigate through challenges with confidence and clarity. Through thought-provoking conversations and tailored strategies, he has empowered me to set meaningful goals, cultivate a better mindset and approach certain situations with the tools to produce a good outcome."

Jason Muir

General Manager Operations, Base Up

"I was able to participate in a training with Kelly. Absolutely 5 stars. Her approach to my assessment was professional but with so much empathy. She made every effort to meet me on my level."

Dayna Ellsworth

Team Member

"Every one of our staff come away from the training sessions inspired and equipped to be more productive in their roles."

Ryan McQuerry

Director, Outside In

New Zealand

"We have worked with Motion for over three years and achieved excellent results. Concepts and tools were presented in the context of our business. Motion are a seamless extension of our business and a vital part of our success."

Graham Rea

CEO, Heirloom International Ltd

"We love the world class, 'developed locally', training material that Motion delivers. We are seeing skills grow and behaviours develop. Practical, useable business skills training that works."

Jonathan White

GM, Fletcher Reinforcing

"Motion has provided excellent training and development through numerous workshops for our 20-30 middle managers. They are always engaging and connect with every person in the room."

Heather Jones

Group HR Manager, Douglas Pharmaceuticals

"I've done many training programs, including Dale Carnegie, Tom Hopkins, David Forman and more. The Motion Training was by far the best because the skills are immediately usable with great effect."

Versatile Team

Leadership Team, Versatile

New Zealand

"I can't recommend this team enough. They were so kind and thorough. The explanations of each level of the human experience were invaluable. I feel confident knowing a little bit more about not only myself, but others around me."

Gino Diridoni

Programme Participant

"I've done a lot of personal development, but this is the first space that feels both practical and deeply human."

Business Owner

Rich & Kel Member

"Rich and Kel don't just give advice — they help you see what you couldn't see. That's where real change happens."

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Who It's For

Anyone!

What people often say after working with Rich & Kel.

"Some of the best training I've ever experienced."

"Practical, relatable and immediately useful."

"Life-changing conversations."

"Exactly what I needed when I needed it."

"Every one of our staff come away from the training sessions inspired and equipped to be more productive in their roles."

"Start to finish, the best training I've had. Our managers are now running their teams with real confidence."

"The course was exceptionally useful to us. The role-plays brought the examples to life."

"I can't recommend this team enough. The explanations of each level of the human experience were invaluable."

"Richard and Kelly are the best in the business. Their wisdom and expertise is a game changer!"

"I've done a lot of personal development, but this is the first space that feels both practical and deeply human."

"Rich and Kel don't just give advice — they help you see what you couldn't see. That's where real change happens."

More Than a Conversation

Two perspectives. One clear path forward.

For over 20 years, Rich and Kel have helped people in business lead, communicate, make decisions and grow. The same skills that change people at work also change how they live.

Rich brings

Strategy. Clarity. Action.

  • Strategic clarity — cutting through noise to find what actually matters
  • Practical wisdom from 20+ years turning ideas into outcomes
  • Accountability that moves you from 'I know' to 'I'm doing it'
  • Tools for clearer decisions, stronger direction and real momentum
  • Questions that challenge the story you're telling yourself

Rich helps you move from thinking about change to knowing what to do next.

Kel brings

Insight. Awareness. Connection.

  • Deep behavioural insight into why you think, react and behave
  • Emotional intelligence you can use in real conversations and conflict
  • Pattern-spotting — the habits and blind spots quietly holding you back
  • Self-awareness that turns reaction into intentional response
  • Questions that help you understand yourself more honestly

Kel helps you understand what's happening underneath so you can respond differently above it.

The difference? Not just conversations you enjoy — conversations you carry into your life and use.

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Our Story

Rich & Kel
Klein Ovink

Honest Conversations. Wrapped In Care.

Working together in people development for nearly two decades and married for 28 years, Rich and Kel have dedicated their lives to helping people grow, lead, communicate and create meaningful change.

What started as a shared passion for teaching life skills has grown into a body of work that has touched tens of thousands of people across the world - through training, coaching, online programs and honest, human conversations.

They lead with a rare combination of practical wisdom and emotional intelligence. Rich brings strategy, accountability and clear next steps. Kel brings behavioural insight, self-awareness and an understanding of what's really getting in the way.

Together, they've built something deeply personal - work shaped by their own marriage, family, business and lived experience. Real people, helping real people, become better versions of themselves.

The Journey

Key milestones.

Age 20

Teaching Life Skills

A lifelong passion for helping people grow begins early.

Age 29

General Manager

Richard is the general manager of a sales and marketing company.

2008

Business Launched

Rich & Kel formally begin their work together.

Milestone

30,000+ People Impacted

Lives changed across communities and organisations.

Growth

International Expansion

Across Australia, New Zealand, USA and the Pacific.

Programs

Launch of Motion Training

A dedicated training brand is born.

Programs

Motion Inspire Change

Helping organisations transform from the inside out.

Programs

InspireHER

Empowering women to lead and thrive.

Programs

Lead It

Leadership development programme for young people.

Programs

Navigate

Guiding people through change and uncertainty.

Today

Coaching & Online Programs

Accessible growth for people everywhere.

Author

Books Published

Legacies and Navigate — two self-help books sharing practical wisdom for personal growth, leadership and change.

Legacy

Family Involvement

Across generations - a true family endeavour.

Why Join

Because so much of what we teach in business also relates to everyday life.

Because it's about people, relationships and the choices you make.

Because confidence comes from action, not theory.

Because clarity about what matters changes how you live.

Because the right conversation can move something forward in your life.

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Proudly headquartered on the Gold Coast, delivering leadership training across Australia, New Zealand and the US.